Conversare Ingredients Part 2
“Sometimes I ponder deeply about “Conversare” which is re-introducing the sheer joy of just being together to share, to laugh, to eat, to sing and to dance. No chores, no big problems, no strategy, no planned outcomes — just lots of intimate togetherness from which compassion, friendship, love and community emerge…”
How’s that for a recent affirming statement to me from Suzanne who has previously added her comments on the blog.
And this comment from Mike:
“I loved the quote from Thoreau… “The greatest compliment that was ever paid to me was when one asked me what I thought, and attended to my answer” – Part of its charm for me was its simple narration of a life affirming moment and how it applied to “me” (ie him). I am grateful to the submitter for it – I also loved “Watch how a conversation between two strangers can turn into a magnificent sharing of personal stories that matter.”— Lisa Evans
There often comes a time when story telling becomes catalytic and is often joined by laughter. I love it when this happens – life at its best.
Let me offer you another quote “Words are, of course, the most powerful drugs used by mankind.” Rudyard Kipling
That was fun.”
Which bring me onto spelling out what happens in a Conversare gathering when the basics of venue and food have been nicely resolved.
The start
People arrive and mix informally. Some may have travelled ‘a far distance’ and are ready for a cup of tea or coffee. The facilities to do this need to be readily at hand.
When it is the right time to start the host invites everyone to join sitting in a circle. S/he welcomes participants, introduces the purpose and outlines briefly the program. Each host will likely choose their own way of doing this.
Which may reflect their experience of previous events and/or bring in the kind of ideas expressed so poetically above.
Essentially the host indicates that here is an opportunity to relate closely and well to people who may not have ever met previously. And that this is a ‘one off’ event, never again will the particular group of people be assembled in this way.
Further, that everyone’s role is to give of themselves. In doing so, to learn a lot about at least one other person – and about themselves – while having much pleasure from participating.
With these thoughts in mind and being reminded of foundation principles (on display and expressed by the host) that:
. whoever comes are the right people
and
. whenever we treat each other well good things happen
set the scene in which people who may not know each other relate deeply.
At the most recent event I as the host also put on display:
“In conversation, we need to honor the legitimacy of the other person and the power that person can draw out of us.”
Michael Jones
For the next steps the participants are invited to walk around in the circle to make brief contact with everyone present. Towards the end of this, which takes a few minutes, find a person they have not previously met or do not know well and choose to have dinner with her or him.
With this question in the foreground: “I wonder what conversing with this fascinating stranger will bring forth?”
We have not got onto possible topics for the twosome conversations –yet. Not least is that it is ‘their show’ – they can talk about anything they like. With suggestions for later, coming up.
I wonder what you sense in what you have seen so far that could have wider application?
And what comes to your mind about possible obstacles to this happening?
Alan Stewart
Hong Kong
Alan–
Suzanne has said she loves the sound of “Conversare.”
I must say I do not.
That is because so far I have not been able to get my tongue around it. I have not the slightest idea of how to pronounce it.
That inability to pronounce it has kept me from embracing the idea (although you know how much I like conversation and the turning it implies!).
So do tell us the correct way or at least Alan’s way of pronouncing it. Perhaps you could provide an audio file of Alan and a half dozen other people saying it.
Say well.
:- Doug.
The straight answer Doug is conversari. Think of conver (as in conversation) and then sari – pronounced the same way as the loose fitting Indian female garment.
The name derives from the Latin con versare – to turn together.
The late Chilean biologist Francisco Varela – a student and then colleague of Humberto Maturana – added the idea of ‘as if in a dance.’
Having met Francisco at a conference at Stanford University in California, USA, in the early 1980s I was enchanted by this idea.
And so have adopted Conversare as the name for this adventure, with the suggested meaning of ‘to turn or to dance together’.
Just watch any two or more people in conversation. What happens to their heads, necks and arms? Do you see the rhythm of their movements as they sway together, slowly when they are relaxed – or fast when the topic grows heated!
How’s that for a lively image?
Would it help to keep us on our toes if we were continually reminded that the core of our being is participating in a great dance?
Conversare is for people, no matter who they are, who wish to engage with, and be appreciated by, others at deeper levels than the usual. It provides experience of this in public places and in the company of people they may not know.
I wonder how you and others feel about this now that you may be clearer about both the pronunciation and its implications for this experiment in close, fun filled relating?
Alan
Alan–
Many thanks! Conver-sorry, eh?
Turning also refers to what one does with a working compost heap. A topic grows heated from organic forces internal to the betweens and amongs of the people involved. And if you’ve ever stepped barefoot onto a compost heap that is really working, you know you indeed step lively!
:- Doug.
PS: the software somehow removed my editorial comment after the word eh: it said “(grin)”!
:- Doug.
Personally, I love the sound of the word, conversare.
It rolls of the tongue, especially if you give at least the final r the alveolar trill so beloved of the Scots (which the Stewarts would probably do!).
Sometimes it makes me feel like an operatic tenor singing an Italian love song when I let the four syllables swing. You really need four beats to dance, unless you want always to waltz or to march.
Compared to Facebook and Twitter it has a bit of melody to it and I often think conversation would be better if it was sung.
I’m not being facetious; I just like the sound the words make.